How to Run a 5 Whys (with Humans, not Robots)

by tomheonon 12/5/2012, 12:58 PMwith 17 comments

by ivixon 12/5/2012, 2:43 PM

The summarised version: 1. Mistakes happen and will always happen. Saying "it wont happen again" doesn't fix the problem. 2. Make a joke to stop people getting defensive.

by sturadnidgeon 12/5/2012, 3:55 PM

As much as I agree with the general message (nobody died, so it's not _that_ bad), and have employed that same technique over the years, the part about root cause is off point IMHO.

'Root cause' can absolutely refer to a collection of events. In the example given, clearly both things were causal, clearly you fix both - you don't pick one and label it 'THE root cause' and forget about the other (yes I know he talks about prioritisation, but again that's perfectly valid when addressing a root cause that happens to be a collection).

by tsewlliwon 12/5/2012, 1:19 PM

Brilliant, I've definitely struggled before with how to get people to 1)not worry about being blamed and 2)claim they won't repeat a mistake. This is totally actionable, thanks!

by danoon 12/7/2012, 4:42 AM

If you are interested in the root of this methodology, consider reading Toyota Production System by Taiichi Ohno. Page 17 starts the discussion on how asking Why Five times is a method of determining root cause. This book isn't popular, but is worth your time.

http://www.amazon.com/Toyota-Production-System-Beyond-Large-...

by cmckayon 12/5/2012, 2:47 PM

This is more a meta-comment about slideshare than about this presentation in particular. I really like being able to access the slides of talks I've seen, but for talks I haven't seen, there often is just enough that's missing from the slides that I don't get the full picture.

Does anybody have a solution to this?

Now, having said that, this particular slide deck suffers very little from this problem.

by wpietrion 12/5/2012, 5:39 PM

This was my very favorite talk from the Lean Startup conference. I hope they put up the video as well, which was excellent.

by barceon 12/5/2012, 7:31 PM

What if one's humor goes off wrong, which is often the case in these situations?

by mikebonnellon 12/5/2012, 6:55 PM

Great talk from LS conference. Thanks for sharing.