What it's like to be banned from the US for fighting online hate

by HotGarbageon 1/19/2026, 4:57 PMwith 84 comments

by miohtamaon 1/19/2026, 5:40 PM

Problem with HateAid is that it doesn't focus on helping on hate crimes alone, but also combats hate speech, which is very widely interpreted. This sometimes have included criticism to politicians in power. Although its mission might be noble, the execution is sometimes murky. Of course if we get to the future where the government draws the line between the hate and the murky, the line will be drawn by White House for the US companies, not the EU.

https://europeanconservative.com/articles/commentary/germany...

by laughing_manon 1/19/2026, 6:13 PM

We don't want a legal government apparatus in place for determining what can be said on the internet. The first thing that will happen is the categories of things you can't say will slowly start to expand to include everything that threatens the power of the government. What happened during covid is bad enough.

If your reaction to "hate speech" is to get the government to remove the speaker from the internet, what you're doing is more dangerous, in the long run, than the speech you don't like.

by xtiansimonon 1/20/2026, 1:15 PM

Unrelated to the OP, but I ran across this IG repost where a social media post generated a visit from local police. Not because they’re threatening violence, but because they’re accusing a FL mayor of, I guess, being a dick.

I was struck by this policing of free speech.

So, not really a comment on this thread, but just timely and tangential.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DTssjncDjbZ/

by suchoudhon 1/19/2026, 7:43 PM

all resistance is online .. people comment and think it to be enough.

by lambdaphagyon 1/19/2026, 5:50 PM

> Rubio was promoting a conspiracy theory about what he has called the “censorship-industrial complex,” which alleges widespread collusion between the US government, tech companies, and civil society organizations to silence conservative voices

Is that a conspiracy theory in the sense of “some crazy low-status nonsense that no one should pay attention to”, or a conspiracy theory in the sense of “a theory about a private arrangement between multiple actors”?

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/zuckerberg-says-the-wh...

by dust42on 1/19/2026, 5:46 PM

Well, the EU was quick to copy this. The Swiss Jaques Baud was slapped with the same measures. I saw only one youtube video of him and in my memory he was well outspoken and considerate - but definitely not mainstream but also not a conspiracy nut.

I simply think it is not right to basically destroy the life of someone without even a court judgement that he did something illegal. He definitely does not fall in the category of hate speech or trying to stir uproar. I think free speech is important for a living democracy. And that includes people with opposing views.

by incomingpainon 1/19/2026, 5:40 PM

Some investigative journalists leaked internal documents showing that their intention was shutdown speech of their political opponents and apply EU law onto american citizens.

I side with Matt Taibbi on this one.

They arent innocent researchers being prosecuted by the evil baddies. I'll take my downvotes for having wrongthink.

by dyauspitron 1/19/2026, 5:29 PM

Honestly, I saw all of this coming in 2009 when 4chan was making racism/misogyny engaging by making it humorous. I remember talking to a friend about how we would eventually get concentration camps that started with illegal immigrants and then expanded to any dissidents in the US.

by cmxchon 1/19/2026, 9:43 PM

The EU finally finds out that “foreign interference” also includes them.

Let’s hope Rubio cranks it up harder.