Perl's Decline Was Cultural

by geriksonon 11/20/2025, 6:35 PMwith 6 comments

by PaulHouleon 11/20/2025, 6:43 PM

Would say PHP had more impact than Ruby in the early days. I worked at a place that used Perl with cgi-bin, they did not want to apply the discipline that would make mod-perl reliable so we wound up writing a lot of new stuff in PHP.

PHP has dried up and blown away, so has Ruby but I think we remember Ruby more fondly because RoR had an impact in web frameworks for other languages.

I’d also say Perl was Unix-centric in its thinking while Python embraced Windows early on. Also back when I was using CPAN I don’t remember anything like virtual environments. There is am immediate squee of freedom when you can just install packages and not think about environments but the day you need too conflicting dependencies it is either “game over” or living with painful consequence every time you make a move. It took Python years to get to the point where it is just “uv and chill”

by bediger4000on 11/20/2025, 7:52 PM

I'll politely disagree. I propose that Java and things like Tomcat or Weblogic Server killed Perl. Perl wasn't a language that let a lot of moderately skilled people work on the same project. Perl didn't have "the server" to deploy to.

Java allowed an army to work on the same project and gave managers "the server" that they could control. Java had doctrines and best practices and ant. TMTOWTDI means that the senior engineer can't bully people with best practices.

by ChrisArchitecton 11/20/2025, 7:30 PM

Related:

What Killed Perl?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45977900

by silokon 11/21/2025, 10:58 AM

Well written imo, and many valuable lessons!