Kubernetes Slack will be changing into a standard free Slack on June 20, 2025

by gpion 6/16/2025, 4:48 PMwith 3 comments

by realityfactchexon 6/16/2025, 6:02 PM

Interesting. From the article,

> Why Not Matrix? Our project's size and level of traffic would be difficult for Matrix, at its current level of development, to support. Whereas we would not even be in the ten largest Discord communities; some gaming communities are ten times our size.

It sounds like Kubernetes needs to free-ride on commercial solutions, hopping among them as needed, which predictably may eventually keep being needed, given the corporate-economic environment at present and for the forseeable future -- though, maybe not in the case of Discord, if gamers and other premium users fully subsidize the costs.

That makes sense. But Kubernetes is open source, and that brings its own ethos in a sense. Kubernetes IMO should really use an open solution, in order to help the broader open ecosystem. Matrix is probably that.

Maybe Arathorn can comment on this. If "size and level of traffic would be difficult for Matrix, at its current level of development" really is an issue, I would hope that the Kubernetes community could help push Matrix (the protocol and/or the open/free instance) into doing what is needed in order to help figure out how to get the support where it is needed.

It seems that Element.io, the services company, could provide the required services, but would charge Kubernetes money for that.

Ok. For a free as in beer solution, maybe Discord is where it is at. A little weird, though?

by bitpushon 6/16/2025, 4:58 PM

> Will We Be Migrating to a New Platform?

>> Most likely, yes. The CNCF Projects Staff, which includes several long-time Kubernetes contributors, has proposed that we move to Discord.

Unfortunately, this just feels like kicking the can down the road. The scale at which k8s operates can only be handled by a very few platforms, and discord is definitely at the top of the list but the circumstances that led to this Slack development will undoubtedly come for discord as well.

Perhaps this discord migration should be seen as a stop gap, while the committee looks to migrate to another place.