Incel is not a subculture, just a name for men who can't get laid.
I have a male friend under 170cm like that and a woman friend who uses Badoo just because it has a minimum height filter that she sets to 190cm.
My girlfriend also has minimum height that she selected for.
It's just a nature of life.
I just think people have the same right to not work their ass off if they don't see the ROI just like other people have the right to set the minimum height.
With AI and robotics killing off huge amounts of entry level jobs in the next 5 years, the number of young men who are angry is going to absolutely explode.
Western countries are going to reap what they are sowing.
Feel free to copy and paste this question into your LLM of choice:
"What has happened throughout history to countries with lots of young men who don't have work or money?"
sex ed taught women to fear sex; pregnancy, stds, utis, and lets not talk about the depth of emotional risks.
So what happened? Well a 8 inch vibrator is going to satisfy better than any man ever can. With none of the above risks.
Which then creates a group of men who dont get sex.
something in me hopes people here will question the fundamental hypocrisy in the derisive term "involuntary celibate"
You know, I'm not convinced "we" should care. People get to choose their romantic partners, and they can set any standards they want. If anyone feels entitled over other people's sexual choices, they should either seek help or be treated as potential criminals, because that is a very rapey intent.
Maybe they just want attention or they're just lonely, which is a very real epidemic. Lots could be said about the state of society, such as lack of the "third space", loneliness capitalism, declining birth rates and more. But people will always get to choose their romantic partners, else it's rape because it is non-consensual. Forming groups over rapey entitled whining is not something that should be "cared about" but treated as harmful and dangerous.
There is nothing wrong with not having a romantic partner. and frankly, people need to get along with themselves first before all that. It's very sad that they don't realize there is so much more to life beyond sex and romance.
But in the end, society owes individuals nothing when it comes to finding romantic partners. it would benefit society if more people paired up, it's healthier for everyone involved and for society at large. But the strict social law that must be upheld is that individuals either adapt to the preferences of their desired romantic partners or to living a celibate life and all the consequences that come with that. There is no third option that is valid. They're not involuntary celibates, they are voluntarily maladapted.
A lot of these people don't see potential romantic partners as people, simple humans like themselves, but as boxes to check or a trophy to win in a game. Whatever the cause or reason is, they feel like if they play by the rules of a certain game, then they are entitled to a romantic partner as a reward.
My main point being, society/"we" must take a strong stance against this nonsense and say that we really don't care about people who refuse to get help and are holding hostile and harmful beliefs. They can accept that the world owes them nothing in this regard, they can seek help to arrive at that same conclusion or be treated as dangerous elements of society who should expect hostility not "care" or attention.
There was a good channel to make use of those young men in the society: Army conscription, back in the good old days. Then selfish boomers took it, along with many other good things, away, because they didn't want to fight in Viet Nam. Now these people will have nothing better to do than 'lie down and rot'.
Maybe because I didn't meet my wife until I was 35, I think there is some rationality in all of this.
Modern dating is mostly based on how someone looks, in those short milliseconds before they decide to swipe left, or right. I think that recognizing when you may not be what women want, and that attempts in modern dating have and will continue to fail, why not just back away instead of continuing to put yourself through that?