> “Frank Miller Jr. made threats against an MSG executive on social media and produced and sold merchandise that was offensive in nature,” Mikyl Cordova, executive vice president of communications and marketing for the company, said in an emailed statement.
If he made threats, what were the threats?
If he didn't make threats, does this written statement, from a communications executive, to a journalist, intended for news publication, constitute libel?
His behavior was disrespectful and disruptive and in violation of our code of conduct.
Certainly not the first time a vague and imposing "code of conduct" has caused trouble.
I'm sure this is just an isolated incident and we won't see anything like this happening in the future.
If somebody did that to my kid, I wouldn’t be enjoying any shows there, ever. Absolute cattle.
It feels like this should be illegal.
Is there an image of the shirt?
I assume that embedded Instagram post is a pic of the shirt, but I don't have Instagram so it's a big blank box with a link to "View this post on Instagram".
It's ironic that on this post about a large corporation abusing its power, they are requiring the user to use Instagram to get the full context..
Congress should pass bipartisan legislation that people in this situation, albeit rare, get a full refund at a minimum, or at least be able to predetermine if they’re banned.
Isn’t this the deal we’ve made? You can, legally, deny someone access to private property for any non-protected reason.
On the other hand, if the private property was constructed with public monies, which MSG probably was, that’s an interesting debate. Should the involvement of public money confer first amendment protections of some sort? I think it should.
Edit: You can’t use “my” money to build something and then ban me from it because I said something (non-protected) about the CEO of the company that owns it.
I don't understand why there's so much focus on facial recognition on this article?
The guy's name was known from social media, and his name was on his ticket, presumably. He was then asked for his ID to verify his identity (confirm he was the person on the list), and then kicked out.
I don't see where in that any kind of facial recognition was necessary?
It's not surprising as James Dolan is a pretty notorious asshole.
Way too much circle jerking in this thread over what the first amendment means as if people a few hundred years ago had a better grasp on what is right and wrong in today’s context than anyone living and breathing and thinking today. In my opinion the deference given to what long dead people wrote is a cause of many of this country’s problems. It’s supposed to be a living constitution and we’re still trying to divine what those dead people meant by their more obscure statements with a radically different context than what we have face today.
American Dream (TM). Freedom of speech at its best.
iTT: as new group of people banned from MSG properties lol.
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Big fat warning that there is absolutely no proof of why they were banned, the title is very misleading.
If they pulled Miller out of the line and only then checked his photo ID, and the allegation is they used facial recognition to trigger this, then that implies they already had his biometrics in their database.
The legal disclaimer shown at the venue implies that the biometrics are collected (and “retained, stored, and converted”) at the venue. That’s clearly only half of the story. They must also be collecting (and retaining, storing, and converting) information about anyone using sources outside the venue.
The implication from chronology of the story is that MSG must have done something like googled Miller, found his LinkedIn bio-pic, and put that in their “safety and security” database?
I think we can conclude therefore that the disclaimer sign is not a quasi-legal disclaimer to let the venue record your face, but in fact a canard to divert your attention from the fact that they have already created records linking your face to your name — records created without your consent and without letting you know they did it.