H1B Debacle Discussion

by ralusekon 12/28/2024, 6:27 AMwith 6 comments

I believe there is a very straightforward solution available: set a floor on H1B salaries.

The pros of skilled immigration are self-evident, just look at the names of the contributors to literally any research paper of note. America is about 4.5% of the world population, it would be foolish to squander the advantage of being one of the primary destinations the remaining top contenders from the other 95% of the world pool.

The major con of H1B immigration comes from when American workers are excluded by those who are simply willing/able to work for a lower wage. This drives down wages for Americans and excludes otherwise willing and competent members from the workforce.

Solution: add a floor on H1B salaries at something like 1.5x average American salary for the field. When it comes to importing the best and brightest from around the world, that function would remain completely unaffected. Those people can and should be making 1.5x average anyway, and they almost invariably already are. And by making it a floor rather than a penalty across the board, we're not even disincentivizing hiring the best and brightest, we're just only incentivizing hiring the best and brightest. When it comes to hiring your bread and butter workforce, keep it American until you run out of Americans to hire, and then pay a premium for those abroad.

by bubbleRefugeon 12/30/2024, 6:19 PM

This! Quotas. Max X% of engineering should be H1B's. + Allow H1-B holders to be free agents and move to the highest bidder. + No working at contractors. This is one of the biggest problems. The WiPro's, Tata's, Infosys's, et al, are providing cheap labor for large IT Dept's to operate IT systems like Oracle and SAP. Apple contracts into the 10's of 1000's of these types of resources. Americans could be trained into these type of positions.

by webaholicon 12/28/2024, 7:20 AM

That would leave smaller companies in the mid-west or other LCOL places behind. Only companies with enough revenue can compete (mostly tech).

by Hatrixon 12/28/2024, 7:56 AM

Too bad they can't work from home. AI is going to takeover all the tech jobs anyhow, right?

by paulmendozaon 12/29/2024, 5:26 AM

Yes, I agree. If these really are amazing engineers then pay them like they are.

by throwt4on 12/28/2024, 7:11 AM

All the western countries have no problem to welcome corrupt billionaires and refuse to extradite them back to their home countries and at the same time cry about illegal immigrants like you guys are natives.