OpenAI: Cofounders Greg Brockman, John Schulman, along with others, to leave

by wavelanderon 8/6/2024, 12:36 AMwith 20 comments

by sebastiennighton 8/6/2024, 2:31 AM

What's fascinating here is not the ongoing drama at OpenAI.

What I believe is most fascinating is that many people are fairly sure that history is being written (assuming Microsoft/OpenAI/sama remain a/the leader on the AI front).

But there is so much secrecy and uncertainty that it's completely unclear what meaning the drama will have in hindsight.

Maybe we reach utopia by 2050 and it all goes down in history as "wow, it was an epic ride worthy of a Hollywood hero story!"

Or we have a few years before a panopticon dystopia where we're all thinking "damn, we came so close to saving it all!"

Or, as is the most likely outcome in everything, it's mostly business as usual for 100 more years, and most of the drama is completely forgotten, while a couple of stories end up as Netflix docu-fiction series to watch on a rainy Sunday.

What's everyone's bet at the moment?

by ppsreejithon 8/6/2024, 1:29 AM

Possibly related to Elon's new lawsuit? https://www.theverge.com/2024/8/5/24213557/elon-musk-openai-...

> The new lawsuit filed in federal court in Northern California on Monday says that Altman and Brockman “assiduously manipulated Musk into co-founding their spurious non-profit venture” by promising that OpenAI would be safer and more transparent than profit-driven alternatives. The suit claims that assurances about OpenAI’s nonprofit structure were “the hook for Altman’s long con.”

by behnamohon 8/6/2024, 12:48 AM

greg seems to take a leave of absence, but the way I see it, he's pulling an ilya due to legal reasons. IOW, he's not allowed to found another company for now.

by kranke155on 8/6/2024, 9:42 AM

So how toxic is Sam Altman?

by ergocoderon 8/6/2024, 6:46 AM

OpenAI is falling apart due to its non-profit root.

No sane founder would take a leave during a hyper growth.

If OpenAI wasn't non-profit, the founders would have been billionaires easily.

Greg and co. still have a chance to reach the billionaire status by leaving and founding a new company. Could easily be funded. They would also have much more fun building the tech without the non-profit craps.

The founders start realizing this. They get chastised and criticized without much benefit (e.g. billion dollar). People even thought Sam was a billionaire.

Once OpenAI's lead is squashed by competitors, the company will collapse.

by rognjenon 8/6/2024, 11:04 AM

dang perhaps merge this and https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41168904