Framework Laptop 13 review: a DIY dream come true

by hillcrestenigmaon 5/16/2023, 8:33 PMwith 94 comments

by nrpon 5/16/2023, 9:09 PM

I'm happy to answer questions that folks have around this product.

by atribecalledqston 5/16/2023, 10:15 PM

I'm definitely thinking about getting a Framework, I could use a decent Windows / Linux laptop for random hacking (and some light gaming). Might wait until the next model comes out though since I don't have any immediate need.

Being able to replace components in my 2012-era Macbook Pro has saved me a number of times and a laptop that's built around that ideal sounds great to me.

Are Frameworks generally in pretty high demand and hard to get? Like when the next model comes out, can I basically expect that it will be impossible to get for a while?

by toastalon 5/17/2023, 3:33 AM

The bad (addendum): poor display panel options. No upgrades to DCI-P3 coverage, OLED, etc.

by mustaflexon 5/16/2023, 10:24 PM

It would be nice if Framework can share a roadmap for availability outside U.S (I'm from Belgium) for all their products.

by iamnotamouseon 5/17/2023, 1:43 PM

I like my 2022 framework, but the Linux support has been disappointing.

I've had off and on display issues: both the built-in display, which used to constantly freeze (now less so), and external displays which sometimes will stop working until I switch kernels. Battery life is awful -- it'll last maybe 8 hours with the screen off (doing basically nothing, but not sleeping). A few hours of actual use. Sometimes the replaceable ports stop working until I re-insert them after boot. The manual screen brightness doesn't work until you disable the auto adjustment and reboot (not sure if this was fixed).

It's about the level of support I'd expect form a laptop not specifically advertised as Linux friendly, except Linux was part of the marketing for Framework.

Just want to put this out there since this review didn't test Linux.

by hyperman1on 5/17/2023, 9:50 AM

I wonder if it is possible for a DIYer with a 3D printer to put a mainboard in a thinkpad X220. Or transplant the thinkpad keyboard to the Framework. All electrical connections are probably going to kill this idea stone dead, but a man can dream;-)

by DreamFlasheron 5/17/2023, 10:55 AM

I hope the review is indeed correct, my Framework Laptop 12 has horrible battery duration: Normal usage 3 hours, high CPU usage 2 hours, measured multiple times. Also the fan is constantly spinning, it's very loud and it's overheating.

by flapjaxyon 5/16/2023, 9:39 PM

Are there any plans to enhance the sound quality in future iterations? The 80dB speaker upgrade makes it louder, but the sound quality is still lacking compared to other traditional machines.

by snapplebobappleon 5/16/2023, 11:01 PM

I loved my initial kickstarter version of this laptop and am even happier with my 2022 model. Really looking forward to the larger model. Highly recommend these to everyone.

by cultofmetatronon 5/17/2023, 1:04 AM

excitedly waiting for my ryzen model myself. Its such a relief to be able to order less ram and ssd knowing I can upgrade that later.

by rfwhyteon 5/16/2023, 11:35 PM

The Verge has to have some of the worst reviews on the entire internet. All they ever talk about is subjective stuff like how the product "Looks" and "Feels" and are seemingly incapable of doing any actual work to provide things like benchmarks, comparisons, charts, graphs, etc. Just more of the same low effort, low quality garbage reporting as usual from the Verge. Like how do you do an entire review and not have a single benchmark or even a remotely qualitative battery life test let alone meaningful comparisons to competitive products?