China: Democracy That Works

by hillcrestenigmaon 12/12/2021, 5:07 AMwith 27 comments

by pkdpicon 12/12/2021, 5:50 AM

In all seriousness after getting addicted to reading Liu Cixin (who the PRC seems to fully support) Ive found myself occasionally wondering how much of what I think about China and it's oppressive surveillance state could possibly be ambient US propaganda or anti propaganda.

But then again the only friend I have that speaks Chinese and has visited China for work multiple times backs most of it up.

More of a thought experiment but getting hooked by clickable title here stirred it up again in my head.

by dirtyidon 12/12/2021, 6:26 AM

"Whole-process democracy", i.e. democracy with Chinese characteristics was formulated at 4th plenum in 2019. Was wondering when it was going to be weaponized on international stage. I think it will go further to erode west's monopoly on defining democracy than most here would think. PRC tends to gain plurality support at UN for initiatives that undermines western discourse power.

Either way, plays well domestically. Latest democracy perception index: 73% of PRC Chinese thinks the country is democratic, 84% thinks democracy is important, which is... high even compared to actual democracies. Perceived Democratic Deficit gap of 11% means citizens think the government is largely living up to expectations.

by travisgriggson 12/12/2021, 5:49 AM

Is there a karma level on HN where you can downvote articles? I can down and upvote comments, but only upvote articles.

Will there be a point in my karma life when I can downvote a submission like this?

by da-xon 12/12/2021, 6:44 AM

> The system of multiparty cooperation and political consultation under the leadership of the CPC is a basic element of China's political framework.

TIL the CCP has (only?) about 70% of the seats [1]. I wonder what power or influence the other members have.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_C...

by lettergramon 12/12/2021, 5:36 AM

From:

> The State Council Information Office of the People's Republic of China

So literally the propaganda office lol

by vanusaon 12/12/2021, 6:21 AM

This document is actually quite fascinating -- if nothing else than as an dazzling display of institutional mind rot.

So it shouldn't be flagged. It would be a shame if it didn't get wider circulation, in fact.

by garbagecoderon 12/12/2021, 5:19 AM

This but ironically.

by zeristoron 12/12/2021, 5:10 AM

Check for April 1st?