Not at all surprising that wm4 committed that. He makes all of the best mpv commits anyways. Here's just a couple ones I quickly dug up:
https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/commit/7d11eda72e90d7aa9df...
https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/commit/c4dc600f1f2e08f87cf...
https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/commit/1e70e82baa9193f6f02...
Before the posts were censored
https://www.reveddit.com/r/linux/comments/hnoksv/mpv_devs_co...
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I can see some people being rubbed the wrong way by the language in this post but it sounds like a reasonable criticism by someone who has gotten tired and annoyed, and seems to mostly represent accurately the discussion in that ticket.
Does anyone know a decent counterpoint to this? Or an argument why Gnome is being reasonable?
KDE on the other hand, is real nice these days
I'm unhappy with gnome too, but I run a distro because I'd prefer to do doing something other than writing my own OS from scratch.
Unfortunately, because gnome is what most people use and what the distro defaults to other choices are inherently second class.
I happily used xmonad for years, but eventually got forced out of it due to compatibility especially once things started using wayland.
I wonder if us desktop users need a pact of the form that we'll stop using gnome completely of 51% of other users also stop using gnome. :)
No matter what your preference, sabotaging a desktop environment by calling `exit();` is certainly not the way to go: you're only hurting your users.
I guess I'm in that minority of people that left me when it went through the boondoggle of the early super broken 4.x releases, and started using gnome 3. Gnome 3 is distraction free to me. I don't even notice it most days.
There's a few forks and there's always elementary if you want to pay for to truely support folks.
I ditched GNOME in 2015 for XFCE and haven't looked back. Their attitude is pompous and atrocious. Send them to the bins of history where they belong.
Fck GNOME devs coming straight from tha underground
A young hacker got it bad cos he's out
of other FOSS choices so devs think
They have the authority to break their reverse dependencies
Fck that shit, cause I ain't the one
For a brainwashed developer to be lecturing on
"If you don't like it, just don't upgrade"
what and use unsupported software with no security updates?
Fcking with me cos I'm not an average user
So I gotta put up with the preferences of pretentious designers
Rearranging my workflow, oversimplifying their product
Thinking every user is a fcking dumb idiot
You'd rather see, me wasting time
Than take responsibility for your poisonous party line.
Pwn a GNOME dev with an 0-day
and when I'm finished, fck with GTK
to pad a hundred pixels inside every border
yeah enjoy your own fcking bread and water!
I don't know if they NSA
Slowing hackers down, and wasting screen space
And on the other hand, without FOSS they can't get jobs
Cause they just failed at trying to be Steve Jobs.
Dumbing down the ecosystem, training user ignorance,
Spitting on those who built our community in the first place!
Anonymous will rewrite
Every application with a GNOME design
Just cause I think more mathematically
Punk designers are afraid of me!
HUH, a young hacker on the warpath
And when I'm finished, they'll wish they'd merged my patch
when they had a chance, but now it's too late
Yo J, GNOME's been replaced.
Example of scene one
[GNOME Dev] Pull up your goddamn debugger right now!
[Hacker] Aww shit, now what the fuck they changing their API for?
[GNOME Dev] Cause I feel like it! Now sit the fuck down for 16 hours and patch yo fucking software
[Hacker] Man, fuck this shit
[GNOME Dev] Aight smartass, I'm breaking yo entire desktop!
Since GNOME 3 has launched almost 10 ago, the whole environment has been crashing down an endless downward spiral of shortsightedness and idiocy. Replacing what was probably one of the clearest and simplest UIs ever made for an iPad-like, user-hostile interface that threw away decades of well known, polished UX was a gigantic, unforgivable middle finger to their users. A clumsy, me-too shitfest of minimalism that never managed to achieve anything but complicating computing by removing things, all for the sake of an unrealistic ideal of simplicity that nobody ever asked for. GNOME 2 was _already_ simple, intuitive and clear. It was feature rich, but easy to understand and use.
GNOME 3 removed everything, feature by feature, without realising that everything was simply becoming more complicated. Having to install at least 3 extensions in order to make a desktop environment behave the way it is supposed to is asinine, and it feels like they totally forgot who their target users are.
Plus, GNOME has been deliberately hostile towards anything non-GNOME for so long now that I am surprised there aren't more people out there telling them to screw themselves. GTK+ has also been monopolised by them and it's become harder release after release to keep track to what they were doing to the point that some devs actually found rewriting everything using Qt a more productive way to spend their time.